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 2001/7/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21759 Activity:very high 7/11 Why do we bother to date stuff anymore? it all disappears within a couple hours regardless. \_ for the sex? \_ yeah, why does the motd get cleared so much quicker these days (or appears that way) \_ more intelligent people in the CSUA? \_ kinney! kinney! is the standard! motd. poster. \_ more opinionate censors who don't like the free and unrestricted exchange of ideas. The intellectual content of the ideas is irrelavant, even drivel has the right to get posted and remain on the motd. \_ Its a conspiracy to kill the motd
 2001/7/11 [Uncategorized] UID:21760 Activity:nil 7/11 \_ I don't understand your disdain for english majors, psb. Personally, i've never met an english major who didn't know who Joyce was. I have, on the other hand, met engineers who didn't know who Euler was. Is that any less reprehensible? \_ I'd like to comment on your analogy. As an engineer, the important thing is to be able to *do* stuff, which requires, for most engineers, that you know some math that was discovered by Euler. While I think it would be nice for technical people to take an interest in the history of the ideas they need, you don't need to know who Euler was to be comfortable with differential equations, but if you know lots of history and can't integrate, you are a totally incompetent engineer. \-1. i said a lot of english majors probably would not be able to tell you who Stephen Daedulus was without context, not James Joyce. 2. the filtering criteria to get into english is a lot lower than to get into EECS. 3. i think a lot more people come to ucb for a degree stamp and end up in english rather than just people committed to language and lit ... i dont think a lot of people come to berkeley with the idea of going to law school and just casually decide to major in physics. 4. the names of people is less important in engineering than english. you can know what cos + i sin \theta is without knowing euler, but it is sort of hard to know much about moby dick without knowing it was written by melville --psb \_ you could read it and think about the ideas without knowing anything about Melville, though. I think a person who has worked at sea will understand alot more about that book than someone who listens to a bunch of whiney cal freshman overanalyze it. my point being that you dont learn about literature by going to college,which is not really in opposition to what you're saying, i think. \- well i suppose you "could" however you would be missing a lot of essential stuff. to take an example i am more familar with, say the Iliad, there are some interps of homer that are definitely wrong which may seem reasonable if you are unaware various notions of greek society and the nature of improvisational oral composition. so as the person above sugests, a work of literature is much more a product of it's circumstances than a result in math or physics. ohm's law would be ohm's law regardless wheher it came from germany or china. however, a chinese old man and the sea would probably quite different from hemingway's. in spite of all the crap about knots in MD, i dont think knowing how to sail is the key to MD. probably more important to know your bible, shakespeare etc. --psb
 2001/7/11 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:21761 Activity:nil 7/11 I hate Texas and Bush! Long live Davis! quicken.excite.com/investments/news/story/djbn ?story=/news/stories/dj/20010710/BT20010710005436.htm&symbol=PCG \_ This is a very good arguement for nationalizing the power industry.
 2001/7/11 [Computer/Theory] UID:21762 Activity:nil 7/10 AI is the stupidest movie I've ever seen. It insults my computer science intelligence. Don't waste yer $on it. \_ stupider then The Net? that actually sounds kind of like an impressive feat. \_ I actually enjoyed it a lot, up until the the underwater Manhattan scene. They could've and should've ended the movie there. \_ Speaking of movies, go watch Memento, especially if you like puzzles. \_ Good for the first hour, so-so for the rest. \_ The male-love-robot is funny. They should've made a female version and a futuristic commercial for http://www.realdoll.com  2001/7/11 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:21763 Activity:high 7/10 Forced by mgmt to use yahoo groups. Hate it. Anyone know of any open source posting/discussion forum code that i can set up on my solaris/linux/bsd box? thanks. \_ start a mailing list and archive it on an internal web page sensibly with GNU MailMan \_ Yahoo Groups > mailing list \_ pipermail (built in mailman archiver) sucks; use hypermail with mailman \_ Friends of mine suggest PHP-nuke, it's a slashdot-style application.  2001/7/11 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Uncategorized/Profanity, Industry/Startup] UID:21764 Activity:nil 7/10 Found out my X-company is a "C corporation", not an LLC. does this mean I'm up shit creek when they go bankrupt? - X-.com founder. \_ If they go bankrupt, they can't pay you. What's wrong with that? \_ other way around, i'm worried that incurred debt could be charged to me. \_ http://4inc.com/compare.htm . Shouldn't you have asked all these questions of the attorney that helped you incorporate? --dim \_ each column contains the word "are not normally liable for the debts of the corporation". relax.  2001/7/11 [Transportation/Car, Finance/Investment] UID:21765 Activity:nil 7/10 Does anybody have anything to say about the new parking permit regulations (max 3 14-day permits, can't buy more than 1 at a time, etc.)? Why was this change made? \_ it's part of the windows xp rollout \_ It's designed to screw students. End of story. \_ according to the "Customer Care Servicers" it is there because of the balck market that was created with sales of said parking passes. Clearly they didn't take any sort of economics.  2001/7/11 [Uncategorized] UID:21766 Activity:nil 7/11 Powerpuff Girls!  2001/7/11 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:21767 Activity:nil 7/12 evoice is going away. any other service on the web out there like it? - danh \_ http://onebox.com  2001/7/11-13 [Reference/Military] UID:21768 Activity:high 7/12 I'll pay$20.00 for a Diamond Viper Pro (pci) -daveh \_ why? \_Think mil/aero -daveh \_ you're putting a homemade mp3 player built out of a 386 in your 80s Saab? \_ No, I'm writing a custom graphics driver for the Navy (Before shipping crappy mp3 players, Diamond was well known for its graphics cards) - daveh \_ isn't ironic that Diamond's last decent card, Stealth 64, built on the S3 Vision 968, later S3 bought Diamond and turned them into Sonic Blue? \_ In the Navy, you can program MP3s In the Navy, you can set your mind on C In the Navy, come on and join your fellow man, In the Navy, can't you see we need a hand? \_ If you can't see shore, it's not really gay. \_ damnit, I don't want my tax dollars spent on that. what's it for? why aren't "normal" drivers good enough for those rapers of Japanese schoolgirls? \_ that'd be the Marines. Navy's the ones bombing Puerto Rico. -- erikred \_ the Marines are part of the Navy -ulysses \_ This doesn't deserve the response, but no. \_ Why does the Navy take Marines on ships with them? \_ Call and ask them. That's how I found out what I know. I lost a bet on it. -ulysses \_ My coworker is ex-Navy and has verified. The Marines don't like to admit it, but they are squids, too. --dim \_ [date corrected by the motd date god] \_ h07d8P \_ I'll pay \$10.00 for yer mom
 2001/7/11 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:21769 Activity:nil 7/12 Why is ASP so bad? An example of an ASP model- Yahoo Finance- This entire site is one big ASP application. You can login- load you stock portfolio- track its performance- host discussions- view data related to stocks Same goes for the bill pay.. same goes for the MyYahoo stuff.. Yahoo has gone way beyond the portal to information- They give people the ability to Loadand Retrieve data using the ASP model. The whole ASP thing just got a bad name because a lot of broke dot coms lost their shirts persuing the ASP model- in particular related to the keyword ecommerce. But in actuality the ASP model is far superior to anything (except for maybe the security aspect). The rollout costs are nil- the training costs are minimized- the ability to implement quick enhancements is there- If lets say- Ellison got his way with the network computer- we really would have a better operating environment as MSFT could go in real time and update the interface and release enhancements without having to bundle the entire package together. The Ecommerce ASP is still a multibillion dollar solution. Look at Ebay- ASP model. SAP applications may as well be considered ASP now with all the http://MySAP.com integration they have. Just becuase we all don't use commerce one's or ariba's software doesn't mean it is a flawed idea- or bad technology.
 2001/7/11-25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21770 Activity:nil 66%like:21641 7/12 !kinney - aspolito
 2001/7/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21771 Activity:nil 7/11 The motd is dead. Long live the motd!
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