1/10    Has anyone here worked in the kitchen of a nice restaurant?
        If so, how did you get the job, and what did you think of it?
        \- this is probably a lot different from what you expect. The book
        has other problems but you can read Kitchen Confidential. --psb

1/10    Are there any side effects to transfer money between your bank
        account using PayPal?
        \_ minor rash

1/10    How hard is it to write a Java applet which does some work and then
        sends info back to a cgi script?  Client server would be nice, but I
        can't run a continual process on the server.  Any examples?
        \_ trivial - just use the java builtin calls to make an http request
           back to the server.

1/9     Why can't somebody make a java compiler that generates machine
        code?  Screw the cross platform bytecode, then it'd be just as
        fast as C/C++ and would still be the more cleanly-designed
        language.
        \_ They have.  It's called gcj, and it's part of the Gnu Compiler
           Collection, normally referred to as gcc.  -mogul
                \_ TowerJ is much better.

1/9     Where can I find a product that will let me brainstorm in
        the shower?  Think a waterproof whiteboard, not a saran-wrapped
        pPilot.
        \_ How about a Pentium III with a 100W power supply and 20"
           monitor. Those were water proof last I heard of it. And make
           sure there's lots of salt.
        \_ you have a one bit binary computer with you.  do like most sodans,
           and program that while in the shower.
           \_ one-handed use product?
        \_ quicker showers!
           \_ Yeah.  Conserve water, man!
        \-fogged mirror --psb
          \_ you're funny. and practical. listen to the man, people.
               -psb #3 fan
                \_ Truly.  This would be so.  Wisdom has come to you.
                        --psb #1 Fan
                \_ I've become a fan of psb #3 fan.
        \_ external (outside of the shower) tape recorder
           \_ camcorder, even.
              \_ webcam so we can teleconference
        \_ etch a sketch!

01/11   If you or anyone you know is running a version of Borland's Interbase
        released in the past 8 years, forward the following information:
        http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/247371
        http://www.interbase2000.com
        [yes, this is a /. repost; urgency justifies it, as far as
         i'm concerned]     -alexf
        \_ Uh, "compiled into the source between 92 and '94".  Does interbase
           come as partial source + binaries-with-no-source?  What about the
           whole open source many eyes thing?  If someone can sneak in a back
           door account for 6+ years, what's the point of it all?  Might as
           well use MS products for all the good OS did in this case.
           Normally, I'd purge this as /. repost but I find this interesting
           although not urgent.
           \_ it was not open-source whatsoever until ~6 months ago. being a
              huge body of code, it's not too surprising that it took 5 months
              to find the backdoor (especially since no one would've been looking
              for it directly)
        \_ uh, why would anyone be running Interbase. -tom
           \_ good question. not my concern. -alexf
                \_ My point is, it's not urgent because no one is running
                   it.  -tom
                   \_ grow up man.  the real world won't always conform
                      to your sense of aesthetics. at your age you should have
                      learned that by now.
                   \_ ^no one^no one you know of
                      there's a large difference between the two
                        \_ ^no one likely to be reading the MOTD you twink^
                           \_ ah so tom knows everyone reading the motd (and
                              everyone else those people know; see original
                              tom doesn't know me: 3
                              tom doesn't know me: 4
                              post). impressive, tom.
                              Let's try a motd poll --
                              tom knows me:        0
                              tom doesn't know me: 6
                        and if i ever meet the bastartd, ill kick his ass:2

1/11    my company (a b2b integrator) is asking all engineers to be
        java-certified.  what am i to do???
        \_ Quit and get a real job.
        \_ certified as in certified by Sun?  Isn't this a diploma mill kind of
           a thing?
        \_ Get them to pay for a java certification.  -John
        \_ Like John says.  If they want certified engineers and they don't
           pay for it are they expecting their entire staff to go get trained
           on their own dime and time?  I think not.  Put them on the defensive
           and ask what the details of the company sponsored cert program are.

01/11   It's easy to wipe out the world with an adapted (human) virus.
        http://asia.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=asia/headlines/010111/world/afp/Aussie_scientists_stumble_across_the_Doomsday_Bug.html
        \_ Scary indeed.  Do you realize we can now genocide mice?
           \_ Wiped out all mice.
           \_ Another example of, it's straightforward for an area expert
              to do, but they're smart enough not to do it.  Trust me, I know.
              \_ Yeah, being a bio expert certainly precludes any evil
                 intentions.
                 \_ That's what I'm saying ... (that is, I'm agreeing
                    with your sarcasm)  "Yeah, being a computer expert
                    certainly precludes any evil intention."

1/11    Teachers in Nebraska are not getting paid enough under the new
        state budget.  Forward the following information to everyone you
        know:
        http://update.journalstar.com/stories/1.
        [yes, this is a Lincoln Journal Star repost; urgency justifies it,
        as far as I'm concerned]  -tom

1/11    motd poll

        phone a friend:
        50/50:
        poll the audience:

01/11   <tomnoise deleted>
        \_ what is the spectrum of tomnoise?  is it white? pink? blue?
           something more awful sounding?
           \_ brown. and smells appropriately.

1/11    Who can clean me up before the big policeman's ball?
        \_ The garbage man can!!!
           \_ Yes the garbage man can!!!

1/11    IT is coming!!!

1/11    Anyone watched "The Internet" on the History Channel? I was
        disappointed that they kept talking about MIT/UCLA and the profs
        and grad students but had absolutely NO reference to Berkeley.
        \_ um. there's a reason ya know. berkeley wasn't involved until several
           years into the project; the most formative work, around '66-'70, had
           nothing to do with Berkeley
           \_ we just wrote the protocols